web-ed wrote:Now, Sunflower mentioned that she didn't like counting or having to say "sir," and we should note that spankees vary quite a bit when it comes to this
yes, these are not my favorite, but I do what I have to do.is the purpose of this, from a spankers standpoint, to show his domination over the spankee? I believe it is. of course until my spanking is finished I have no doubt that I am being dominated, but I guess this is just one way to call attention to that. one of the many ways. if I was not being submissive I would probably count, but not call him "sir". what would you do in that situation? if your spankees don't call you sir during the penalty swats? just wondering, even though every top is different, just as a lot of submissives are different. yet, strangely alike also.
Interestingly enough, counting and addressing the spanker as "sir" are two different, although not entirely unrelated, things. I generally require the spankee to address me as "sir" during the entire session
, especially if it's a disciplinary
session, and the purpose of this is to emphasize my superior position and make her feel more submissive, which it does very effectively. I don't always make the spankee count swats, although I generally do for the penalty swats since I want to set them apart in some way in the spankee's mind. If a spankee hates counting, I don't make her do it too much, but I reserve the right to make her count out a small number. If the spankee loves counting, I will always make her count some of the swats, penalty or no. The purpose of counting, generally speaking, is to increase the spankee's humiliation
- and there's an important clue there, for as you say, "a lot of submissives are different. yet, strangely alike also". I'm finally writing my series of articles on the whys of spanking, and in one of them I'll explain exactly how submissives are alike and why some of them like counting and some do not even though they're all seeking basically the same thing
. Let us say only here that some Subs find counting annoying but not humiliating.
You ask what would I do if the spankee failed to address me as "sir" during the penalty swats? [Sunflower is referring here to the situation in which the spankee must count "One, sir" "Two, sir" or "One, thank you, sir" "Two, thank you, sir".] That's easy - if she doesn't count the swats as instructed, then they don't count, period
! I correct her immediately, since I truly don't intend to give her more penalty swats than absolutely necessary, on the assumption that she's made an honest mistake. So if she didn't count the first swat properly, she will get just that swat over again. Faced with the possibility of an endless supply of swats if she doesn't do as instructed, the sub will quickly realize it is to her advantage to do as she's told!
Finally, counting may be used for "regular" swats also: I mentioned above that for those spankees who really love counting, I will make a point of requiring her to do this for some of the swats (note that subs love to be told to do what they secretly want to do - another psychological point of some significance). Sometimes I will count some of her swats if I have the idea that a particular sub will find that more humiliating - it's a way of "rubbing it in" (the fact that she's getting a paddling). I don't do counting all the way through a session as it can become boring if relied on too much, and I like to give lots of swats!
Now as to Phil's latest, panel #30 - we can't escape the subject of penalty swats, since that's what's going on here, and like B00m I love the view in this one (I would think all Tops do
). Poor Natalie - still 8 more swats to go! I really do feel sorry for her, but Top that I am, I also want to see her get her 8 more swats
(More spanking psychology here - male Tops are less conflicted than female Subs, but I think a good Top must always blend compassion in with "sadism", here used loosely to mean the desire to administer an effective spanking).