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Spankings involving superheroes and superheroines, non-superhero comic-book stuff, comic strips, jungle girls, Lara Croft, Vampirella, Elvira, etc. Chross' board already has an excellent thread on this, but we love this subject so much we figure it deserves its own forum here anyway.
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Re: cookie bumstead

Postby web-ed » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:09 pm

willjohn wrote:Height means little, my older daughter was tall than many of her teachers before she was 12. No girl as flat chested as Cookie in that picture could possibly be 18.


Certainly some girls are tall, and I did notice that Cookie has no apparent bosom, but then again, Young does not draw in a realistic style, and I'm not sure we're more justified in inferring from that she's a child any more than we should infer that Popeye has a serious deformity because he's drawn with enormous forearms. The question I ask myself is not "Can I prove beyond all shadow of a doubt that this girl is an adult?" but "Is it reasonable that she might be eighteen?"

You may be right about Cookie, Willjohn - it was a close call for me and maybe I got it wrong and shouldn't have posted it. (In a minute I'll try in another post to explain my policy and the reasons for it). CSR is an enormous site - it must be over 1400 pages by now. Each page that's out there represents an editorial decision to go forward and each item I chose not to print represents an editorial decision in the reverse direction, and I don't suppose anyone could make that many judgments without error. I always hesitate to suppress something because I know that it may not be available elsewhere or that if it is, CSR readers might not find it. Spiritworks is gone now, and CSR may be the last place on the web younger spankos who weren't surfing years ago could find that particular spanking panel - a point in favor of its posting here.
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Re: The "No Children" Policy Revisited

Postby web-ed » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:28 pm

Somewhere on this board I've explained this policy in the past, but when I searched using the box on the Home Page (everyone knows that you can confine the Google search to a single web site by using the correct code, and that I've got it built-in for you there, right?) all I got for my trouble was a warning from Google about child porn! Hope they don't report me to the government, because of course my only interest was that I had mentioned in the explanation I was trying to find that I didn't want anyone to draw the mistaken conclusion we were somehow eroticizing the spanking of children here, because that's something no one connected with CSR wants to do.

There is also the legal question, although despite a disturbingly-high conviction rate of something like 93% I doubt that a federal prosecutor could win a case based on spanking alone: prudence counsels us to steer well clear of anything that could get us into trouble, innocent or not. The old Artastic Forum had a lot of child-spanking stuff, and Anime OTK still does to this day, and no one is bothering them so probably no one would bother us either. But mostly it's the character of the site I'm worried about.

We have lots of erotic spanking material here, so my concern was that by presenting child spankings even though they were purely disciplinary, someone might get the wrong idea. And as a secondary matter, none of CSR's regular readers had any interest in child spankings anyway, so while I documented (and still document) them in the Data Base for legitimate research purposes there was no point in clogging up the gallery with the innumerable spankings of Nancy, Li'l Dot, Li'l Jinx, Katy Keene's sister, Imogene from Dixie Dugan, The Katzenjammer Kids, and so on.

Next I'll take up the question of the spanking from The Ripples, but I'm having trouble getting much information on the strip so it may be a day or two. Meanwhile, I'll have no time to visit any other thread on this board, so don't feel neglected if I don't respond to any other new posts for a while.
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Re: The Ripples

Postby web-ed » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:52 am

One problem I had here was that I had never heard of the strip. Neither Don Markstein nor Maurice Horn even mention it, although I did find an entry on the cartoonist, George Clark, from another trusty source. Here are some examples I've dug up to help settle the question of our spankee's age:

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The Ripples, Sept. 14, 1943 © News Syndicate Co. Inc.

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February 10, 1946 © News Syndicate Co. Inc.

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May 23, 1948 © News Syndicate Co. Inc.

To begin with, we can now positively identify the spanker and spankee as Mr. Ripple and his daughter, Kitchie.

In the first example from 1943, Kitchie is shown helping out in Dr. Dibbs' office and going on rounds with him, which seems an unusual job for a child. (In another that's not shown here, she goes out on a boat with him, which also seems odd if she weren't at least nearly grown). In the second, it's pretty obvious that she and her brother are just kids. Only in the third from 1948, seven years from the spanking strip, does she look a bit older and totes a boyfriend on her arm.

Of course, the real question is what she looks like in the spanking panel. Clark had a penchant for drawing very short and stout men as we see from the above examples, and the director could have been someone Kitchie's age. It's true that characters are not always depicted consistently nor age normally (the examples of Diana Dane and Etta Kett should be fresh in our memories) but I have to conclude that Kitchie is just a kid. She's got her hair in pigtails (I think), and what makes the scene worse is that she says "I'm hurt" rather than "It hurts" although the spanking is clearly for humorous purposes and no one could reasonably infer any erotic intent on Clark's part. As for Clark, he was a better artist than writer, for no competent scribe would have had Kitchie say "I'm hurt".

You did a great job in finding this, Phil, and while it's an interesting scene that's certainly going into the DB, and a case could be made for Kitchie being older than she looks, I think it would be best if it were removed or at least modified so we don't actually see Kitchie over the knee as we did with the spanking of Gertrude in Polly and Her Pals. The pre- and post-spanking panels are no problem.
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Re: Newspaper Examples

Postby web-ed » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:01 am

And finally, Phil, thanks for presenting these - they were most interesting. I think that one with the elderly couple should get added to the Newspaper Spankings Series when we get around to it. :D
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