Threats and Missed Opportunities

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Cat-Man and Kitten

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We mentioned in last week's spanking from Captain Aero #4 that Solar, Master of Magic was supposed to move over to Cat-Man comics, but he never did for reasons that have been lost in the mists of time. Most CSR readers would never have heard of Cat-Man, but he was around for awhile and apparently someone was worried about lawsuits involving the character for when Batman went chasing after some male burglar who dressed up like a cat, he was called the "Cat Crook" instead of Cat-Man (or the obvious "Cat-Burglar"), although perhaps DC just didn't want to confuse anyone because they already had Catwoman and there was to be no relationship between the two characters. Cat-Man had several different publishers, at least different in name, and his numbering system was confusing, so we wouldn't be surprised if there were copyright questions as late as the 70's, and perhaps this also explains the disappearance of Solar.

Now like many super-heroes of the day, Cat-Man had a teen-age sidekick, but unusually, this sidekick was a girl named "The Kitten". This of course opened up a logical opportunity for some M/F disciplinary spanking, but it never happened as far as I know (I'm not sure that I've seen all of Cat-Man's stories, although I have seen many). Since Kitten was Cat-Man's legal ward (I believe) the occasional spanking would certainly have been appropriate. Let's take a brief look at Cat-Man now with an adventure in which Kitten does get hit in the behind, but only with a paper ball:

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An extremely well-aimed note wadded up into a paper ball hits the target in Cat-Man #20 (October 1943). Art by Charles M. Quinlan Sr.

Maybe that was one of Cat-man's super-powers - throwing an object through a 2nd-story window and hitting any female in the room just as she's bending over :lol: ! Mighty handy talent, I'd say. He must have thrown that paper-wad pretty hard to get an "Ow!" out of Kitten ;) . A nice humorous bit.
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One Fine Day in JLA Headquarters

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We're not sure what possessed female Justice League members Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl to think playing strip poker against the male members was a good idea (perhaps they were drunk ;) ), but we're glad they did :lol: ! A little thought would probably have convinced them that playing against one guy who can read any card from the back even from 10 miles away (Superman has x-ray and telescopic vision) and another guy who can read minds (the Martian Manhunter) wasn't such a good idea - so it's just as well they didn't think! Flash and Batman have lost their shirts, but they don't seem to mind as long as Diana and Shayera have lost theirs as well!

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I don't suppose this is exactly a missed opportunity, but there could have been a "Females get spanked once they lose their top" rule or something. :) It would certainly be an embarrassing time for an emergency call to come through on the world crisis monitor.

This was undoubtedly the work of Palcomix although I found it on the Rule34 porn site. (Characters © DC Comics Inc.)

My only question is - where were Black Canary and Zatanna on this happy occasion? ;)
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As some of you on this forum may already know, I love spanking toons but I hate pornography. I won't have it in my house.

But this toon, showing us a round of strip poker played at the JLA headquarters, is not smutty. Instead, it is laugh out loud funny. Nobody is having sex with anybody, it's just a clever idea expertly drawn on this forum. And notice that neither Wonder Woman nor Hawkgirl seem outraged by the trick that's been played on them. They're just resigned to it all. Perhaps they, too, see the humor in the situation.

I sure do. 8-)

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Suzie Pratfalls

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It's Homecoming Week (2016) at CSR when I always like to do school-themed stuff, and this year we focus on Suzie from Archie Comics. As part of the festivities, and because so much Suzie material has become available over the past year, I'm going to post all the pratfalls and "Behind in Jeopardy" pages I've collected. Here we focus on the pratfalls, never as good as spankings but still kind of fun.

I may have had the help of Bishop Berkley or Robin with some of these - my notes don't indicate any details as I record less information with non-spanking scenes.

1. Suzie pretends to be a child, trusting her school tie to cover her bosom. No, I can't remember why, and it really doesn't matter although it does fit in nicely with Homecoming Week.

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From Suzie #50

2. Physical comedy was a staple of teen humor mags, including pratfalls:

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From Suzie #53

3. Issue #53 was loaded with good stuff - two pratfalls, a nice bending-over panel, and Suzie sits on a cactus (see following post for that one)!

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From Suzie #53 - great issue!

4. Just the second pratfall.

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A close-up of the pratfall panel, the second from issue #53.

5. This one takes place at a bowling alley. We could do without Suzie's boyfriend Ferdie's pratfall, but it was worth it to get one with Suzie.

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From Suzie #55

6. Very few words here, but then again we don't read Suzie expecting Fyodor Dostoyevsky.

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From Suzie #84 (December 1951). I haven't given dates on the others, but they were all prior to 1950. Ah, the Golden Age of comics! :)
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Suzie's Behind in Jeopardy

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The "Behind in Jeopardy" as we call it has always been a low comedy staple, and I always enjoy seeing them although every time I do I can't help wishing they had been spankings instead :lol: !

Credit to Bishop Berkley who found numbers 3 and 4.

1. I don't much like these ones featuring bees, but here it is from Suzie #51.

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2. Suzie #53, a great issue, provided these nice panels with Suzie being thrown from her exploding automobile and of course coming down fanny-first on a cactus plant, with the after-effects:

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3. Suzie goes west, gets thrown by her horse, and lands hard on her saddle.

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4. Very similar to #3, Suzie goes west again and winds up sitting on a cactus plant:

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Our notes show this as coming from Suzie #80, although that's unlikely. Since it's not a spanking, we won't worry too much about it. :)
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Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities

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Thanks a lot, Web-ed, for bringing us these panels from "Suzie." I had seen some of them before, and I enjoyed them a lot, but because they were not actually spankings I never collected them. But now that we have the internet, I will "save" some of these in my files.

Although spankings were not actually seen in these comics, it was always great fun to see a pretty, golden-haired beauty on the receiving end of kicks, butts, and other unseemly encounters that involved temporary damage to her adorable rear end. In my experience, social media always treated pretty women as goddesses on a pedestal. It was usually the males who got whacked and kicked. How refreshing to see the tables turned! Even if the spankings were never actually seen!

Of course the one and only spanking we know of for Suzie is the one where young Fauntleroy bends her over and delivers what looks like a pretty fair OTK handspanking. Probably this panel was approved for publication only because the spanker is so much younger than the spankee and it is played for laughs, not sex.

Late addition: Ooh boy, here I can see that you found yet another actual spanking for Suzie. Good show! This one is from her Dad, who puts her over his knee for making him lose his job. You mentioned that this toon denies us an angle that would allow us to see the outline of her boobs and the crack in her derriere. Surely that was intentional, to keep this toon from being too seductive. He is her Dad, after all.

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It does not look as if anybody missed an opportunity with Suzie.
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HI web-ed,

WOW! There certainly are a lot of panels focusing on Suzie's backside :lol: . Even though there aren't many spankings, I have to feel like the people who put this out are certainly fans of the female bottom :D . Do you think they would have liked to do more spankings but weren't certain how they would be received? In any case. I enjoyed looking at all these :D . Thanks for posting all these. Phil
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overbarrel wrote:

WOW! There certainly are a lot of panels focusing on Suzie's backside :lol: . I have to feel like the people who put this out are certainly fans of the female bottom :D . Do you think they would have liked to do more spankings but weren't certain how they would be received? In any case. I enjoyed looking at all these :D . Thanks for posting all these. Phil


Right you are, Phil. I'd like to know what era gave birth to these "Suzie" cartoons. The 1930s? The '40s? The '50s? It's an interesting psychological question. I would bet that Web-ed, with all his historical knowledge, could tell us. One thing is for sure: We won't see anything like this in the comics of today. :|

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Re: Suzie's Behind in Jeopardy

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overbarrel49 wrote:HI web-ed,

WOW! There certainly are a lot of panels focusing on Suzie's backside :lol: . Even though there aren't many spankings, I have to feel like the people who put this out are certainly fans of the female bottom :D . Do you think they would have liked to do more spankings but weren't certain how they would be received? In any case. I enjoyed looking at all these :D . Thanks for posting all these. Phil
daneldorado wrote:I'd like to know what era gave birth to these "Suzie" cartoons. The 1930s? The '40s? The '50s? It's an interesting psychological question. I would bet that Web-ed, with all his historical knowledge, could tell us. One thing is for sure: We won't see anything like this in the comics of today. :|
Taking Dan's question first, the Suzie comics these panels came from were all 1951 or earlier. As I mentioned somewhere in that mountain of Suzie material last week, I have not been able to document all of Suzie's appearances and I'm not sure anyone else has either, unless they've got a complete run of Archie Golden Age titles (in which cased they should sell them and retire :) ). Suzie's first appearance is believed to go all the way back to Top Notch Laugh Comics #28 (July 1942), not long after Archie Andrews' first appearance in Dec. 1941. (In fact, this is the title that became Suzie with issue #51.) Because Suzie appeared in a number of different places over the years, it's still possible that there's another spanking scene out there, and of course I'll keep searching through all the old Golden Age Archie titles that I can since I believe them to be a likely-rich source of more spankings.

Now to Phil's question: did the Suzie creators want to do more spankings? Suzie (her own title) ran until 1954, the year the Comics Code went into force. I won't give all the citations here, but I have elsewhere expressed my theory that the Code didn't really clamp down on non-parental M/F spankings until 1956 (coincidentally(?) the end of the Golden Age as I date it). That would seem to have left plenty of room for more Suzie spankings, especially from her father.

On the other hand, comics were coming under fire beginning around 1947, and we have seen that the two spankings in Jungle Comics #89 from that year were censored when the story was reprinted five years later in 1952. The last known Suzie spanking (the one we saw last week from issue #83 of her own book) is from 1951 . Therefore it is certainly possible that someone wanted to show Suzie being spanked by her boyfriend Ferdie or some other guy who wasn't her father in the 1952-54 period but the spanking got nixed at some point.

No way to reach a definite conclusion either way, but since Suzie's two known spankings are both supposed to be humorous, I have to think that if another Suzie spanking by her father was ever scripted, it would have been approved. Let's hope there's still one out there somewhere. ;)
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web-ed wrote:Now to Phil's question: did the Suzie creators want to do more spankings? Suzie (her own title) ran until 1954, the year the Comics Code went into force. I won't give all the citations here, but I have elsewhere expressed my theory that the Code didn't really clamp down on non-parental M/F spankings until 1956 (coincidentally(?) the end of the Golden Age as I date it). That would seem to have left plenty of room for more Suzie spankings, especially from her father.

On the other hand, comics were coming under fire beginning around 1947, and we have seen that the two spankings in Jungle Comics #89 from that year were censored when the story was reprinted five years later in 1952. The last known Suzie spanking (the one we saw last week from issue #83 of her own book) is from 1951 . Therefore it is certainly possible that someone wanted to show Suzie being spanked by her boyfriend Ferdie or some other guy who wasn't her father in the 1952-54 period but the spanking got nixed at some point.

No way to reach a definite conclusion either way, but since Suzie's two known spankings are both supposed to be humorous, I have to think that if another Suzie spanking by her father was ever scripted, it would have been approved. Let's hope there's still one out there somewhere. ;)
Hi web-ed,

Thanks for the information and the speculation on this one. Your level of knowledge about such things is so great that I have a tendency to give even your speculation a lot of thought. Thanks, Phil
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I really enjoyed seeing the Suzie collection last week, with the one actual spanking panel, several panels that show her rubbing her backside, and various pratfalls.

Of course, the biggest missed opportunity I see in the Suzie series is her constant juggling of the two boyfriends! I would've loved it if a story had concluded with Ferdie and Gregory taking their turns spanking her!
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Here's a picture that I re-wrote the caption and added some stars.
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Now it looks as if, instead of firing Suzie, the boss spanked her and made her get back to work!
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Hi Boom,

I definitely like your altered version better :D There's just something that seems right to me about spanking her and then sending her back to work 8-) . This is one of the pics I liked best, BTW. There's just something appealing about this view :D . Thanks, Phil
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I understand, I really do, that the creators and editors of "Suzie" wanted to shy away from any toons that would show the beautiful blonde Suzie being spanked... other than the one toon where she is spanked by a young boy (Fauntleroy?) and the other toon where she is spanked by her Dad. But that was 1954! What did the editors have to fear, after that late date?

Smilin' Jack and The Phantom, two other very popular comic strips, had already spanked at least a dozen ladies in the funny papers by then. I don't remember reading about any feminist protest against those stories. Also, Superman supervised the spanking of Queen Arda in 1946. And Superman himself took a misguided young woman over his lap and spanked her during WWII, calling her a "saboteur." There were many, many other comic strips in the early days that showed us men spanking naughty females. You know there were. So why, in the relatively late year of 1954, would Suzie's editor have to fear the wrath of the public by subjecting their main star to repeated spankings... especially since their stock in trade was the regular abuse of Suzie's rear end anyway?

Yes, I realize there is now a thing called feminism, and the women behind that movement are determined to stamp out any mistreatment of women. But spankings are not mistreatment. In the comics and on TV and the movies, they are supposed to be funny... and they are!

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Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities in Suzie

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Hey B00m - I just got to these now. Thanks for doing all the hard work in presenting them. I think the one with Suzie typing the report while standing due to being spanked is a very ingenious use of the original composition.

Now let me address Dan's question:
daneldorado wrote:I understand, I really do, that the creators and editors of "Suzie" wanted to shy away from any toons that would show the beautiful blonde Suzie being spanked... other than the one toon where she is spanked by a young boy (Fauntleroy?) and the other toon where she is spanked by her Dad. But that was 1954! What did the editors have to fear, after that late date?

Smilin' Jack and The Phantom, two other very popular comic strips, had already spanked at least a dozen ladies in the funny papers by then. I don't remember reading about any feminist protest against those stories. Also, Superman supervised the spanking of Queen Arda in 1946. And Superman himself took a misguided young woman over his lap and spanked her during WWII, calling her a "saboteur." There were many, many other comic strips in the early days that showed us men spanking naughty females. You know there were. So why, in the relatively late year of 1954, would Suzie's editor have to fear the wrath of the public by subjecting their main star to repeated spankings... especially since their stock in trade was the regular abuse of Suzie's rear end anyway?

Yes, I realize there is now a thing called feminism, and the women behind that movement are determined to stamp out any mistreatment of women. But spankings are not mistreatment. In the comics and on TV and the movies, they are supposed to be funny... and they are!
The two basic problems, Dan, were that comic strips and comic books were seen as two very different things (they still are today as well, but to a lesser extent), with the latter seen as a children's medium, and that beginning around 1947 they were coming under increasingly intense criticism (and not from feminism, by the way, for this movement didn't really exist yet). This criticism culminated in the creation of the Comics Code Authority in 1954, and the number of non-parental spankings in comic books dropped off, with the 1956-65 period being akin to baseball's "Dead Ball Era" for it was practically dead to spankings.

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I tell the whole depressing story in The Effect of the Comics Code on Spanking, a 4-part article I wrote back in 2012. One of comics' chief detractors was Dr. Fredric Wertham, who assailed among many other things what he termed "Erotic Spanking" and "Sexual flagellation upon the buttocks". (It was discovered early on the spanking panel he reprinted in his book Seduction of the Innocent had come from Frontier Romances #1 - follow the link if you can stand reading my lengthy commentary from 2010).

Note that spanking in comic books was under explicit attack, at a time when both juvenile delinquency and sexual perversion were subjects of great concern to parents - a U.S. Senate hearing on comic books was actually held(!) although spanking was not mentioned in the partial transcripts I have read. The publishers were running scared, and the content was clearly affected, for as we know one spanking from Candy was toned down to the point that her boyfriend Ted pictures himself whacking some other guy with a tennis racquet (blechh!) and the two spankings from Kaanga were chopped out completely when these stories were reprinted.

That is what the editor and publisher of Suzie had to worry about - ironically, just as Humorama was discovering the erotic potential in spanking, comics were afraid of that potential being any further realized.

Luckily, the Code's attitude began loosening in 1966, and we began to see comic book spankings again. But Suzie had been gone for 12 years by then - sigh :( .
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A Threat and a Missed Opportunity from Mary Worth

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I'm updating the two known spankings from Mary Worth this week and next, and just in time to accompany them Sweetspot found a threat and a missed opportunity from the strip. Let's take a look at them now:

1. From September 25, 1945 comes this strip in which Garrett Walker threatens to "paddle something, and it won't be a canoe!" - it will be the fanny of this unnamed young lady :D . This situation reminds me a lot of the spanking from The Saint ("The Golden Journey") where the spoiled brat doesn't want to do her share of the work.
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2. Twenty years later came this scene on October 20, 1965. As Sweetspot says, "They tell us she is much to old to spank and then they taunt us with a nice look at her ample certainly not to old to be spanked backside!" The wise pater knows his daughter is never too old to be spanked :lol: !
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Thanks for finding these for us all, Phil! :)
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HI web-ed,

Yep. There's that element of disappointment that accompanies all missed opportunities :lol: . Of course, we all know that it would have been much more effective to have applied that paddle first, accompanied by the threat of more in the 1945 strip 8-) . In the 1965 strip, a good spanking first, followed by his threats would have, again, been more effective. I think it's his making excuses attitude about spanking her that's caused her to be spoiled anyway. Thanks, Phil
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Susie Q. Smith - Heading for More Spankings!

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Back in January, we revisited one spanking from Susie Q. Smith and looked at a couple of other scenes in which a spanking very definitely took place, but off-panel. Sweetspot has unearthed some more interesting episodes, so let's take a look at them here.

1. No spanking here; it's more like another case of a "behind in jeopardy" as I like to call them. This one is from January 5, 1959.

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Hitting a girl in the butt with a snowball is something many of us have done - I did it in high school :lol: - and it's harmless fun. The interesting thing is that Susie says she's not jealous that her boyfriend, Caz, does this to another girl, even though she takes this as a sign of affection, because she's not the jealous type. It's notable that whacking a girl on the behind should be recognized as affectionate, or at least a sign that a girl has a boy's interest.

2. From December 10, 1951, Susie skates on very thin ice when she declines to do the dishes as her father wishes.

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Uh, Susie, how many times have you been spanked by "Popsie" now?

3. This time it's definite: Susie's gonna get the hairbrush, from May 5, 1954:

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You'll be howling all right, Susie, and very soon, too :lol: !
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Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities

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Even though I stopped actively looking at Susie Q Smith strips some months ago, when one looks at hundreds of comic pages with 14 to 20 different strips to a page, once in awhile something fortuitists is bound to come up. Susie seems to always live on the edge of receiving discipline from her father so it's always a good idea to have a closer look if it appears that she and dad, early on always referred to as "Popsie", appear to be in confrontational mode.
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I can almost promise that dad will be paying a visit to Susie later that evening with hairbrush in hand!

Doing the dishes always seems to be a bone of contention between teenage daughters and their comic strip parents. In one S.Q.S. strip her mother passes out when Susie volunteers to do the dishes. Later this year, I guess, we'll see how the chore of doing the dishes leads to another older teenager being spanked. I suppose showing a stack of dirty dishes was visually appealing to the artist who wanted to convey that a particular chore needed done and done right now. When Ella Cinders complained about the drudgery her step-mother tasked her with, it was often demonstrated to readers by showing her washing the dishes.

I think the "This is my night to howl!" gag is a very good one. Note that Mr. Smith appears to be preparing to spank Susie with his left hand. This is of some note to me because I'm left handed. Because I'm O.C. about this sort of thing you now get of a list of famous left-handed spankers in the strips and comic books. I'm so proud! Roy Rogers, Tarzan, Popeye, Harold Teen (sometimes), Cole Oyl, Hiram Lodge, Superman! (sometimes), Superman's robot, Phantom, Mandrake the Magician, Mammy Yokum, Captain Marvel and Lois Lane.

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