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Threats and Missed Opportunities - Young Idea
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:54 pm
by web-ed
Young Idea appears to have been a one-panel comic that seems in some ways to have anticipated later entries into this genre.
Phil S. 
found this one where the theme is spanking. Was the intended spanking carried out, or did the daughter's rather weak argument carry the day? You decide.
Young Idea, April 18, 1949 © United Feature Syndicate
Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:03 pm
by butch46163@yahoo.com
Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:57 pm
by Sweetspot
Concerning
Young Ideas: Her argument, and give her credit for thinking on the fly, brings her father up short but only temporarily I would think. Her claim is 'You want your offspring to have what you
didn't have but you did have spankings therefore you do not really want me to be spanked.' First of course the idea that he doesn't want her to have what he
did have is never explicitly stated, she is drawing an unwarranted and rather convoluted conclusion. Giving it a moment of thought I think a reasonable reply - not that she deserves one - would be, "I also had an allowance so I should stop yours. Oh yes, my parents fed, clothed and put a roof over my head...but if you'd rather pay for all of that...and by the way, I also went to school, had doctor appointments when needed and got my driver's license the day I was old enough to do so"...
"OK dad just spank me and get it over with."
Captain Easy October 16, 1994 You would think that by 1994 Easy and Tubbs wouldn't be shocked to find out that the Chief Mate [whatever that is] turns out to be a female. I remember watching a mid-sixties Star Trek and Kirk is surprised when the Romulan commander swivels in her chair and is revealed to be a woman![and that takes place in the 23rd century.]

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Joe Palooka July 11, 1966 Not a hint so far [OK so I suppose we can call this a hint] of male spanking female or even F/F spanking in this long-running strip.

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Dr. Kildare August 4, 1968. Dr. Kildare and Ben Casey were not only competing TV show but competing comic-strips back in the 1960s.

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Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:59 am
by web-ed
Three more good finds, Phil! I like the threat in
Captain Easy, not because I like the idea of him spanking a boy but because of the way the scene could have continued:
EASY: I'm sorry - I didn't realize you were a girl.
CHIEF MATE: I deserve to be treated the same as anyone else.
EASY: But after what you did, if you were a boy I'd spank you!
CHIEF MATE: That shouldn't make any difference.
EASY: O.K., if that's the way you want it...
CHIEF MATE: Wait - what are you doing? Stop!
EASY: This is going to hurt you a lot more than it is me.
CHIEF MATE: Yeoowwww!
By the way, the "Chief Mate" would be what we Americans would call the "First Mate" - I believe "Chief Mate" to be British usage since I remember seeing the term in Joseph Conrad's
The Secret Sharer.
Nice threat in
Joe Palooka also. I actually do have one spanking from the strip, of a bratty child actress by Joe, but I'm not sure I've documented it yet in the Data Base. It occurred on March 7, 1937.
I love the expression on Dr. Neilson's face when that guy (a patient?) says that he would advise Dr. Kildare to spank her! She looks horrified, but is it my imagination or is she just a little thrilled by the idea, also?
The art in this one is by
Ken Bald. So far we know of no actual spankings drawn by him, but I did present his work on the cover of
Namora #2 from twenty years before the
Kildare strip when we saw
Namora spanked in some independent art of Louis Paradis:

Cover of
Namora #2 (October 1948). Art by Ken Bald. © Marvel Characters
Re: Web-Ed on Dixie Dugan and BEND OVER
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:35 pm
by Sweetspot
[Moved from the
Dixie Dugan topic -
Web-Ed] I always hesitate to respond quickly to a Web-Ed post because the way the index runs for the Forum my response replaces Web-Ed's original post. The problem with that being that a Web-Ed post carries a lot more gravitas than mine does and therefore audience is lost. But this time my contribution to the
bend over conversation is to pertinent [besides my 'name' was mentioned] not to publish in a timely fashion. Far be it from me to not bend over backwards to bring a selection of bend over images from the funny pages.
Out Our Way March 27, 1943 Will and Lil Willets maintained what must have been the longest running sibling feud in funny page history.

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DETAIL from the same strip. Their mother seems to be forever hovering close by. She is often called upon to remove a fly-swatter or even a boxing glove from one offspring or the other.

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Is it just me or does Lil's skirt seem to be tantalizing clingy or sun dress like transparent?

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Re: Web-ED Dixie Dugan and Bend Over
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:48 pm
by Sweetspot
Out Our Way March 23, 1958 A strip that supports the point I made in a previous post
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=148&start=240
it's another variation on the old fly-swatter gag.

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Archie February 1, 1960 Always a welcome sight to see Betty Cooper bent over. But my preferred gag would have been, " Spank me good Ronnie...no good deed should go unpunished."

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Dixie Dugan September 25, 1939. Our woman of the hour bends over and WHACKO!

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Re: Web-ED Dixie Dugan and Bend Over
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:21 pm
by Sweetspot
Re: Web-ED Dixie Dugan and Bend Over
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:36 pm
by Sweetspot
Terry{And The Pirates} November 26, 1952. Except for the fact that Miss Peregrine doesn't actually get smacked there's certainly a lot to like about this two day sequence. As far as I know the only actual spanking that takes place in
Terry... is F/F in a military setting.

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Terry November 26, 1952 DETAIL

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Terry November 27, 1952

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Re: Web-ED Dixie Dugan and Bend Over
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:58 pm
by Sweetspot
Mutt and Jeff January 8, 1979. Bud Fisher's A.[ugustus]Mutt first appeared on November 15, 1907 in the
San Francisco Chronicle. The retitling as
Mutt and Jeff didn't happen until 1916 by which time the strip was one of the most popular in the United States. The strip continued to exist with various artists and gag writers until November 1983 but it's heyday was definitely over by the 1950s.

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Mutt and Jeff January 9, 1979

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Li'l Abner April 24, 1958 Gratuitous female bend-over courtesy of Al Capp.

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Threat in Dixie Dugan
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:07 pm
by web-ed
I hope readers aren't confused by all the different
Dixie Dugan material being put out today, but I figure everyone will catch up. The reason is simply my passion for classification and organization: the
Dixie Dugan topic is basically for spankings that won't be posted or non-spanking material that doesn't fall into this previously-established class of threats/missed opportunities.
O.K., let's see what
Chief Strip Researcher Phil Sweetspot 
found this time:
Dixie Dugan, December 6, 1935. Scan by
Sweetspot. ©McNaught Syndicate
I'm not sure how serious Pa is about turning Dixie over his knee, but she takes the threat seriously enough to run away! That's a rather cute touch, although not as satisfying as an actual spanking would have been.

Re: BENDING OVER and Some Actual Spankings
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:51 pm
by web-ed
Wow! - it's hard to keep up with you, Phil!

I hope you don't mind that I moved your post over here - my idea was to reserve the
Dixie Dugan topic for that strip alone, whereas general BENDING OVER material (as well as "behind in jeopardy" stuff) has generally been part of this topic. Of course I forgot to hold off posting the misplaced Dixie threat before I did the move, thus it's now in-between your posts and this one, but I guess we'll manage. I better break up my responses into several posts.
(By the way, a handy trick on this board sometimes is to be in two places at once using multiple tabs or multiple windows (whichever you prefer). Once you sign in in one place, you will be signed in when you go to the board on another tab (window) also. Thus, I can go through Phil's posts and grab picture locations etc. without scrolling in this tab, or even refer to a post on a completely different thread. Another clear-as-mud technical explanation brought to you by
Web-Ed 
).
First, the Willets: congratulations on finding yet another nice brother/sister spanking in this strip! Too bad the actual swat takes place off-panel as we have seen before (someplace - I don't remember exactly where and I don't suppose it matters too much right now).
Is it just me or does Lil's skirt seem to be tantalizing clingy or sun dress like transparent?
There's certainly
something that makes Lil's fanny look more womanly in this panel, Phil - maybe J.R. Williams' style was evolving on its own, or maybe he was driven by the increasingly erotic way characters were being drawn as the decades moved from the 30's through the 50's (see Al Capp's
Lil' Abner in during these years for an illustration of what was going on) - this is 1943 now, and only two years after
Will applied the paddle to Lil's stinging seat.
Her dress is certainly different, but also her knees are straight and legs parallel - two important items to make sure of when employing the bending-over position!
Re: BENDING OVER and Some Actual Spankings
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:08 pm
by web-ed
The
Moon Mullins gag is rather good, and leads to a birthday paddling:
This in fact qualifies for the Comics Spanking Data Base, and will eventually go into Gallery 2 as well.
Mutt and Jeff also qualifies, and was in fact already slated for Gallery 2 although I didn't have the posting date set yet.
I think a better son-spanks-mother scene was done in
Barney Google [later correction - this one is son-spanks-
mother-in-law], and we will see it eventually although I'll probably have to censor the earlier panel in which the positions are reversed. As a matter of fact, I've got another "switching" spanking scene in which first mother spanks son and then son spanks mother, a rather remarkable occurrence, in a 50's humor magazine (similar to
MAD) that I hope to present some time when we're all still alive

- maybe 2019.
Re: BENDING OVER and Some Actual Spankings
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:58 pm
by web-ed
We come next to an interesting motif - bending over to receive a kick or (better) a paddle-swat as penance for some offense, including against the bendee herself. We saw this first in
Venus #2 and we will be seeing it again in the future from another Golden Age Marvel comic I have discovered as soon as I can get a copy. It is a characteristic of the period and probably looks a little strange these days to anyone under 55.
Here is Phil's example from
Terry:
No swat or boot on this occasion, but although we wouldn't expect to see anything like this from a modern comic, we can hope for more from the Golden Age.
Then there's this one from Betty and Veronica, which is quite similar but with a nicer viewing angle:

© Archie
I'm pretty sure Phil found another, similar panel which I'll go look for in a moment (I want it to have its own post if it exists).
Re: BENDING OVER and Some Actual Spankings
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:03 pm
by web-ed
Finally, we come to this panel from
Al Capp:
It's a nice shot with head up and back arched (no paddling, alas), although Capp was more into "booting" than spanking, more's the pity. He did of course give us several spankings in
Li'l Abner up through 1954 (the last year I have the collected daily strips), and there might be more in the 1955-77 period we don't know about.
Good finds all, Phil, and thanks again!

Re: BENDING OVER and Some Actual Spankings
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:44 am
by web-ed
This has been a big week for
Dixie Dugan, and among other things Phil S. found this scene in which Dixie unwisely bends over near a billy-goat, with painful consequences:
We had seen one similar example before somewhere in this topic, and I've been collecting quite a few to put them all together in one post. As a matter of fact, I've had the color version of this one in my files for some time. Let's take a peek:

Reprinted in
Big Shot Comics #24. © McNaught Syndicate
Notice that the bending over panel has been truncated (it wasn't that great in any case), but the butting panel is full-sized

.
Among the other "butt-ees" we'll be seeing at some future date are last week's spankee,
Lena Pry, and the quite attractive
Invisible Scarlet O'Neil.
Re: BENDING OVER and Some Actual Spankings
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:01 am
by web-ed
One last example from this long, weary night: this is another Betty and Veronica example sent to me last year by
Phil S. 
:
Archie, May 28, 1948. Scan by
Sweetspot. © Archie
This is quite similar to the last one, with Betty managing to out-smart herself in her pursuit of Archie. In considering the apparent preponderance of the boot over the paddle, I am all the more grateful for
Venus #2 and to that other similar Marvel scene (if I can ever get a good copy) where improvised paddles were used. Any more like them? Only time will tell.
Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:51 am
by butch46163@yahoo.com
One More From Dixie Dugan
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:28 pm
by web-ed
Last week's Dixie Dugan special took so much time and effort that one item slipped through the cracks. It was a spanking mention from 1946, and we'll see it now.
Dixie Dugan March 4, 1946. Scan by Sweetspot. © McNaught Syndicate
And we all know
exactly where that hairbrush is due to be applied, don't we?

Re: Threats and Missed Opportunities
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:37 am
by overbarrel49
Hi web-ed,
I'm not sure I understand this one. I'm assuming that our potential spankee is young and still living at home with her parents. I also assume that she's either stayed out past her curfew or perhaps has sneaked out when she wasn't supposed to. Whatever it is, it would appear that our girl knew in advance that she would get a spanking but decided it would be worth getting a spanking if she got to do what she wanted. I dated a girl in high school who did exactly that so this brings back fond memories. She lied to me when she told me her dad had extended her curfew, knowing full well he would be waiting for her with his hairbrush when she got home

. Thanks, Phil
The Bantam Prince
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:29 pm
by web-ed
Our next example comes from
The Bantam Prince in 1953 and features a couple of spanking mentions. A young woman named
Conchita is practicing at being a matador while two boys watch her from a place of concealment. One of them, named "Slip" or "Flip" (we think it's "Flip") worries that she's going to spank him, which would have been of no interest to us. But when he's discovered, Conchita instead says that it's
she who needs the spanking -
now we're talking

!
The Bantam Prince, December 20, 1953. Scan by
Sweetspot.
Chief Strip Researcher Phil Sweetspot 
did not find any follow-up spanking, nor are any known to exist in this strip. In fact, I don't know anything about
The Bantam Prince - Maurice Horn doesn't mention it in his
Encyclopedia of Comics and the late Donald Markstein didn't catalog it either. Chalk it up as another missed opportunity for a boy (or two) to spank an older woman.
[Later edit] Looks like I goofed up on one point: Flip is a
girl! And Conchita's sister, as a matter of fact. Phil S. has some more details in the next post.