web-ed wrote:O.K. - we've come in for a closer shot of the pair as the lecture continues, which is fine as we needed a longer shot last time when it looked like Natalie was about to get taken over Mark's knee. I don't think Natalie's body language here could be improved upon, as you can see how difficult it is for her to pull her panties down (nice guy that I am, I often spare my spankee this difficulty by taking down her panties myself
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hi web-ed,
i liked your comment about Natalie's body language
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. this shot was designed to show her embarrassment at having to pull her panties down in front of him as well as her general humiliation and disbelief at the flood of emotions she's feeling right now
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. the fact that she's still holding on to her panties and has to be told that to let go of them does indeed indicate how difficult this is for her
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. i too am a nice guy and often lower my spankee's panties for her too
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. in this particular situation i felt like having her do it herself would be more effective.
web-ed wrote: Now as to Natalie's expression, I can't point out any particular problem, but something about her face seems very slightly off. Since I can't quite nail it down, it can't be a big deal - perhaps it's that the shape of her mouth as she frowns is almost too perfect geometrically, or a slight angle of the eyes or eyebrows.
i have gone back and studied her expression again but i guess i don't see what you have noticed. i thought the expression went well with her pose and that the 2 together pretty much told the story of what is going on here. as a matter of fact, i kind of thought this pic could have stood by itself, without any dialog. if you do manage to nail it down, i'd appreciate it if you'd pass it along to me. that's the kind of comments that are helpful and i usually try to save that information for future reference when doing other pics.
web-ed wrote:There is still some question as to what type of spanking this is going to be, but the extended lecture is characteristic of a disciplinary session (and incidentally, a good pre-spanking lecture is strongly desired by some spankees). I think you have in mind more of an "establishment" spanking in which the male establishes his dominance over the female since Natalie hasn't done anything "wrong", although I could point to her stubborn refusal to explain her behavior to Mark as a kind of spankable offense. I'm inclined to think the ambiguity here is the result of the inherent D/S element within a disciplinary context, which of course is also why so many women find that even a hint of discipline increases the excitement of being spanked.
your comment about him establishing his dominance is exactly what i had in mind here. that's one reason he is going with so much ritual and such a long lecture. it is still a punishment spanking though because Mark considers her stubborn refusal to explain her behavior, and his resulting frustration, as a perfectly valid reason for a spanking. in fact, it's a pet peeve of his. i know that because i had a former girl friend who did this kind of crap to me and it's one of MY pet peeves
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. i thought your analysis of all this was interesting.............and more in depth than what i had thought about. you have a way of analyzing these situations and then condensing the results into just a few words.............which is a talent i lack. i found your comments about the pre spanking lecture being desired by some spankees and discipline increasing the excitement to be particularly interesting since i hadn't consciously considered any of this but these elements will be showing up at various points as we go along in the story
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. i have 4 pics done that have yet to be posted and have thought much farther ahead than that and the elements you mention here are already in the works. with a bit of luck, hopefully all this will coalesce and become less ambiguous at the toon progresses. also, hopefully, you'll continue to enjoy it
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. thanks, phil