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If Mr. was that important historically, then I'll definitely continue to be on the lookout for it. I have located some back issues, but only one that I know to have spanking pictures or references. It's too expensive to pick them up on speculation, but maybe I'll be able to figure something out. At the current time, I'm pretty well occupied with locating old Humorama digests, which I'm sure will soon be a case of diminishing returns as fewer and fewer Humorama "spankers" remain undiscovered. So far, though, I've been quite successful, locating better scans, pinpointing issues with well-known "spankers", and even discovering a few that I've never seen before. Also, I'm still searching through about 5000 pages of Golden Age comics per month (just found another idiotic M/M paddling) and researching the Superman Dailies.

[Later update: here is a link to a sample spanking letter from Mr. magazine. I can't vouch for its authenticity (why would a wife and mother be writing a letter to Mr.?), nor am I willing to blow $20 on a DVD full of these letters, but they are available. And since everybody's in a nostalgic mood by now - here's a model named Julie Westor from the July 1967 Mr. She's not in spanking position, but that nightie would be a great outfit for her to wear during a spanking, don't you think?] A nude Wonder Woman being spanked - what a lovely thought! In my unposted WW file at the moment I have only the Superman/WW by Nik Zula that probably most CSR readers have already seen, WW spanking herself, and WW spanking Wonder Girl. I know I had a Sue Storm /WW someplace, and I think it was nude, but I'm having a little trouble locating it. I'll keep searching.

I'm still concentrating on the Humorama Series and Super-Spanking Summer:

Humorama Spanking Cartoons:

• New scan of a Kirk Stiles cartoon in which a boss has his secretary bend over to look at the files to provide him with a good target.
• Then, it's not a secretary but a client who gets turned OTK!
• A man searches for a reason to spank.

Super-Spanking Summer:

• Supergirl spanked by The Hulk - again.
• Lois Lane is at it again in Attempted Super-Tot Spankings as she hurts her hand for the fifth time.
• Wonder Woman takes a rope to Supergirl.

Next week, I finish up my current round of DC-bashing with the last of the Super-Tot spankings, which I'm sure will come as a relief to many. I also found time this week to re-edit the classic paddling scene from The Flintstones, so that will appear next week as well. I'm then going to post all my remaining spankings from the Superman Daily and Sunday strips, plus some Marvel heroines get spanked in the work of Congolike and others, which should take us through August.

And there's more: Lyndal Ferguson recently sent me a gorgeous Creature From the Black Lagoon, in which he teaches a young lady that the "No Swimming in the Black Lagoon" sign means what it says. I've also got that Charlton romance comic with another girl getting spanked on her bikini, plus a Golden Age swimsuit spanking that recently became available. These should be posted before summer is over, since they're summer-themed in a way. Maybe I can do all three of them as a Labor Day special or something - we'll see.

Finally, I'm about to take possession of another group of Humorama digests, which pretty much guarantees that series will continue well into 2012. I think I've got about 164 total "spankers" identified now - watch the Humorama Toteboard in coming weeks for an update.

P.S. Phil (Overbarrel) went on a one-man recruiting effort this week, resulting in about 16 new members for the CSR Forum direct from his Yahoo group! Thanks, Phil - maybe we'll have more comments in the "Resident Artists" forum now. We could use a recruiting sergeant like you in the U.S. Army!

A nice bunch of updates, as usual. My favorite this time was the Kirk Stiles one of the man who was spanking the lady for not giving him a good reason to spank her. Circular, convoluted logic, but what a fun excuse! Unfortunately, as you pointed out, the lady's rear end lacks the definition I've seen in other Kirk Stiles cartoons, and it would've been so much better if he was spanking a nicely-rounded bottom that was straining the fabric of her undergarment... but we can't have everyting, can we?

I appreciate the hard work and extensive research that goes into your updates. Maybe with Phil's recent recruiting drive, there will be more comments than what you have been accustomed to receiving.

hi web-ed,

first off i was really happy to hear that we got 16 new members from my yahoo groups . i only knew of one for sure so that is a pleasant surprise. i am hoping that many of them will be kind enough to make comments not only about the drawings posted in the resident artists but also about the results of your weekly updates. ok, on with my comments about this week's updates. i liked your observation about the kirt stiles pic where she is looking in the files. things have changed greatly between then and now...............instant lawsuit indeed. in the husband/wife business drawing you mentioned that it would make sense if the husband were spanking his wife. i have a hunch in light of her error that would be the next order of business . i think they missed a sure bet by not doing a sequel to this one . in the last one, i like the scan from mike's collection which is much better than the other 2 . you're right.................it's a dumb reason to spank her but then on the other hand i have been in a position where my wife wasn't giving me any reason to spank her so i had to "find" a reason . i've spanked her for such things as not putting a new roll of toilet paper on the holder . nice drawing of supergirl.............especially her rear end . i particularly like the throbbing bottom in the doc cylon adaptation. as you noted, it's nice to see the original pic. the pic of supergirl and wonder woman aren't my style either but i thought they were interesting anyway. another good batch of drawing for the update this week. thanks much for the time you spend bringing them to us. phil

hi web-ed,

i have a suggestion that i forgot in the last post. with new members being here i think it would be a good idea to put a link to the home page with your weekly updates as you were doing before. i would probably never have found it if not for that. phil

That' a great idea, Phil! Consider it done. I can't remember now why I stopped added the link, but in fact it's good practice to have a link to the Home Page from every page, and something I do with all the "regular" pages. Maybe I thought I was on the verge of being able to modify the template for the forum pages so they would all have the link, but I wasn't.

Web-ed wrote:


I know I had a Sue Storm /WW someplace, and I think it was nude, but I'm having a little trouble locating it. I'll keep searching.





Is this the one you mean? It isn't nude, but it IS Storm and Wonder Woman.

Cheers,
Dan

Great pic, Dan, and one I used to have in Comics Gallery 1, but it's not the one I have in mind. I meant Sue Storm, the Invisible Girl of the Fantastic Four. I'm sure I can find it eventually - come to think of it, that would give me four WW drawings, which is enough for another short series (that is, a row of the gallery index would be all Wonder Woman). I get too hung up on the idea of complete series, sometimes.

[Update] Found it! WW is naked, all right, but it's she who is spanking Sue Storm.

i have always enjoyed the wonder woman getting spanked by storm that dan provided I loved the expressions of both women and since storm is a weather controller the lightning was a great touch i thought. It is still too bad that Andy Price asked that his material be taken down as it was great and while i can see his position i still think that it is going to be reposted somewhere (even here as it was) and there were other sites that did not agree with Andy's request and still have all of his stuff posted (Artistac, Spanking Art, etc...) so i think that was a losing battle, but i am glad that you did make the effort.
JIm

Thank you for looking at MR. magazine as a source of material. I saw several cartoons in the series (there was one about a woman otk at a pool party and the caption read something like ("WHEN YOU SAID YOU LIKE TO DOG-PADDLE I THOUGHT YOU MEANT SOMETHING ELSE!") another one had a father and very grown up-daughter being shipwrecked and the daughter being otk and saying something like('BUT DADDY, IF IT WAS NAUGHTY WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO IT?") another was the paddling madelyn home that was mentioned in another post and i remember one where a cowboy was singing (" OH,I COME FROM ALABAMA WITH SUZANNAH OVER MY KNEE!") and another where a taxi driver is saying (" let's see a spank for each mile and let's not forget the tip comes out to...") to a stylish woman fare otk. I had never seen that one about the shes not my secretary she is a new client one. but i had seen all the others. Intresting comment about the lacy lingerie i had always thought it was a half-slip as he had pulled her skirt up. The expressions like you said not resenting or excited about the spanking just accepting it was also what i thought was a sign of the times. Congrats on some new members i hope that they will post comments or even share some other sites to find. have a great day
Jim

hi dan,

i like this pic......especially the look on wonder woman's face and the outline of her nicely rounded bottom . i thought i had this one in my collection but couldn't find it when i checked so i have saved this one just in case. thanks, phil

Thanks for another batch of entertaining entries, Web-Ed!

I'm particularly enjoying the Humorama series. The gag in the last secretary cartoon-- which I hadn't seen before, thank you!--was immediately clear. The "Uh Oh" expression on the husband's face combined with the caption explained that his wife intended to spank his secretary for sexual indiscretions, or perhaps for being a witting or unwitting temptress!

I don't know whether to pop open this can or not-- -- but curiosity compels me to ask, do you know how many spanking cartoons appeared in these periodicals? How often they appeared will probably be different than the actual number of drawings. Now, don't go into any big counting project, I was just mildly interested-- there are over 300 WolfieToons at "Discipline and Desire," and I'm wondering how Endart, Phil, Dan, Paula, Nik Zula, and all of us stand with the Old Time Pros in regard to the number of different cartoons done on the same topic! I'm pretty sure we BEAT 'em!!

You're welcome, all, and glad you enjoyed the updates.

Dave,
I see you discovered the answer to your question: the Humorama Tote Board, which currently stands at 152 spanking cartoons. So yes, it appears you and the other moderns have got the "old masters" beat on that score. Over 300 WolfieToons at Discipline and Desire - wow! Looks like you're going after Bill Ward's old crown. Actually, you may already be ahead of Ward - although it is assumed he did well over 1000 adult cartoons during his career, perhaps only 100 or so were "spankers" (including his Humorama stuff).

I appreciate that you didn't want me to go through all kinds of effort to get an exact count. When I've posted all of my current Humorama stock (probably in 2012) and I don't think I can find any more, I might build a Humorama Spanking Cartoon Data Base, much like the Comic Book Spanking Data Base, and then we'll have a better idea of what the total actually was. My best guess is between 160 - 200.

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Ten updates this very busy week. First, Humorama Spanking Cartoons:

• New scan of a Kirk Stiles cartoon featuring a spanking marriage counsellor.
• Then, it's a second marriage counsellor who tries to counsel a husband into spanking his wife.
• Finally, a third marriage counsellor demonstrates how a husband should spank his wife - twice a week! Must be British-style, since this one's by George Morrice.

Then it's time for Super-Spanking Summer:

• Emma Frost spanked by Doctor Cylon.
• Lois Lane hurts her hand for the sixth time(!) trying to spank Super-Tot in this update to a page we posted some years ago.
• Superman then takes over for Lois Lane in Attempted Super-Tot Spankings as he tries to spank his own brood.
• Then, he tries again as Clark Kent in this update to a page we posted years ago. New scan from the interior of our own copy of the book.
• Supergirl spanks her younger self - this kind of self-spanking is o.k. with us!

Lastly, see Betty and Wilma get paddled by the boys at the lodge in The Flintstones - and they richly deserve each and every swat they receive! I also updated a page of stills from years ago.

One note I'm sure everyone will be glad to hear - with the 3 updates today, I've finally exhausted my supply of attempted Super-Tot spankings! Let's hope there aren't any more still out there.

I continue searching through Golden Age comics, but found no new M/F spankings this week. On the Humorama front, I obtained a number of the original digests from the 60's and found three new spankings, plus better versions of some I've already posted. I think there are about 60 new "spankers" and about 18 new scans of existing ones. I'm going to be getting some more old digests soon, but at this point I expect diminishing returns (mostly cartoons I already have) as I predicted some time ago.

Next week the two main series continue, plus in response to Butch's request, I edited the Dee Dee twins caning scene from The Return of the Joker. It's only one stroke, but just wait until you see who's giving it to them!

Web-ed wrote:


Supergirl spanks her younger self - this kind of self-spanking is o.k. with us!


Okay, I'll bitch about this one more time, then I will shut up... MAYBE!

While I can admire Eric Nelson's artistry, nevertheless this picture is porn. Not "soft" porn, as most vanilla folks would classify our spanking tastes, but HARD porn. Why? Because it is obvious that Nelson's main purpose is NOT showing the spanking itself, but showing off Supergirl's private parts!

Really, it was bad enough when Phil (overbarrel), an artist whose skills I admire, drew a spanking toon that showed the spankee's vulva. That's pornography, right there. But here, Eric Nelson goes the extra step and adds pubic hair to the girl's private parts! If that's the centerpiece of his picture, then there are NO standards in CSR. And here I thought, all along, that you would draw the line somewhere. Apparently not.

Web-ed, if you're reading this, know that I am not some hypocritical purist coming here to decry all that we hold dear. You know me. I am a cartoonist who often draws pics of pretty girls being spanked. That surely classifies me as a weirdo in some precincts, but please note: I have never drawn a picture of milady's vulva, vagina, snatch or whatever nickname comes to mind. To me, those things are outside the context of what we are supposed to be about: Pictures of fem-spankings from the comic strips. Zach Moseley and Lee Falk were prolific spanking artists, but they NEVER drew and published a picture of a lady's private parts.

Come to think of it, I don't believe b00m has ever done that either.

I hate to think what the Chicago Spanking Review is turning into. Nick, I ask you to consider monitoring these things in the future.

Cheers,
Dan

This week's set calls to mind something that happened to me one time. I was in a laundromat and the TV was playing that episode of the Flintstones with the spanking. To this day I wonder if anyone else in the place noticed how very interested I was in watching it. I especially loved the part afterwards where the girls were saying that they were so tired-but not tirwed enough to sit down!
I do not find the Supergirl spanking her clone offensive. Lets face it a portrayal of a barebottom otk spanking realistically can be expected to have female genitalia exposed.
As for Lee Falk and Zach Moseley they did not show barebottom spankings. That was a totally different era and they were drawing for mainstream comics. Not for erotic art sites as we have today.
One question ,how do we know that she is being spanked for not wearing panties? Don't see any, but they could have been tossed out of sight.

Tanner,

Interesting story about being in the laundromat while the Flintstones paddling was going on! My guess is that nobody witnessing the scene understood why you were so interested in the program - at best they might simply have concluded you were a T.V. addict. Offhand, the only similar incident in my own past I can recall was back in the 60's at a relative's house when Look For the Silver Lining was being broadcast. The spanking scene certainly riveted my attention to the screen!

I'm going to come back to the "exposure" question in a minute, but to answer your question - "how do we know that she is being spanked for not wearing panties?" - I got that from Nelson's brief explanatory notes over on DeviantArt. This was a commission, so it was presumably the commissioner's idea.

Dan,

Your point about what I'll call "the exposure question" is not unreasonable, and you've made me revisit this question and the series of issues it raises. I admit that as a purely personal reaction I shy away just a little from these myself. If I were an artist, I very well might try to choose camera angles and positions that tended to shield this portion of the female anatomy from view, although given my predilection for holding-ankles paddlings, sooner or later I'd have to show it, in a tasteful manner I would hope. You and I are both a little old-fashioned in some ways, I think, and perhaps that's not a bad thing in a decadent world. I remember reading an article in The Comics Journal many years ago in which the author was lamenting the fact that Jack Kirby's male heroes never showed any "bulge" up front, and commented "No wonder super heroes can't hang on to their girlfriends." I thought that Kirby had the better part of that argument, and that the writer's concern with the "bulge" bordered on the unhealthy. And yet if a completely realistic portrayal were Kirby's goal, the writer had a point.

And that brings us to the question of how realistic the anatomy needs to be in a spanking drawing. First, about clothed vs. bare bottom, while both can be esthetically pleasing, I generally prefer to see a spanking given on the bare. As great as they were, I don't consider the example set by the "old masters" like Zack Mosley or Dan DeCarlo to be dispositive of this issue, because as Tanner points out, they worked in a totally different era and they were drawing for mainstream publications. You couldn't even show a bare bottom before about 1957 (judging from Playboy), something I was considering recently with regard to the Humorama "spankers"), and mainstream comics didn't have full-frontal nudity until (I believe) Dr. Manhattan discarded his pants for Watchmen (1986). In fact, given his willingness to do nude sketches late in his career, I have to believe that DeCarlo would have drawn at least some of his spankees with bare bottoms if he could have gotten away with it back in his Humorama days (I admit that the "exposure" question is more dubious).

Can we tell anything by looking at the works of modern spanking artists? I did a brief survey just now, and interestingly, they are divided on "exposure". On the "yes" side of this question we have the Palcomix group (M?), Julius Zimmerman (M), Cc (F), Paula Meadows (F), and Kamitora (M) (who takes "exposure" a little further, by the way, and in a manner I don't care for personally). On the "no" side we have hugob00m (M, and as you mentioned), Arkham-Insanity (F), SP Anka (F), and Congolike (M). I have included each artist's gender so you can see it doesn't break down along those lines. Again, I'm not trying to evade my editorial responsibility to make judgments, but these are all spanking artists of some stature, and since they don't agree about "exposure", maybe the rest of us as readers and critics will have to agree to disagree also. If that's not sufficient, let's go into it a little further.

Assuming bare bottom, arguendo, I think the "exposure" question is esthetic rather than moral, except perhaps where we go beyond spanking into more extreme BDSM material (which, you'll notice, I don't have at CSR). I think that "exposure" can be handled tastefully or not, but it's difficult to avoid entirely. As Tanner put it,

a portrayal of a bare bottom otk spanking realistically can be expected to have female genitalia exposed"

. So, is Nelson's Supergirl (and all of Julius Zimmerman's stuff in the Doctor Cylon gallery, for example) tasteful? People are always going to disagree about matters of taste. That of course does not absolve me of the responsibility to exercise editorial judgment regarding the material that appears in the pages of CSR. With Nelson's Supergirl, I noted the "exposure" and regarded it as a slight negative (old-fashioned, as I said earlier), yet in the end I decided the positives (principally good OTK positioning and the fact that Supergirl was the spankee) outweighed the negatives and went ahead with it. I would never present something I thought was truly terrible, but remember that if I "nix" a drawing, there's a good chance that most of CSR's readers won't see it elsewhere and will be deprived of the opportunity for making up their own minds about its worth.

Generally, then, if I feel a drawing has artistic merit, I will post it even if I have some reservations and let the readers render their own decisions about it, just as you have done here. (And I value your opinions, by the way. You don't have to "shut up" about this or any other topic that concerns you, and I certainly have no objections to legitimate criticism of what I do at CSR. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if everyone kept silent, we wouldn't have much to talk about!) . If something is very badly drawn I would omit it on esthetic grounds; if it really crossed the line by showing a woman being hurt or abused I would suppress it on both esthetic and moral grounds no matter how well-drawn it was. This is why, as mentioned above, I don't do hard-core BDSM stuff even if it has a spanking component.

Looking ahead (which means into my files), you'll probably be glad to know I have very little more superhero stuff that crosses the "exposure" line. For example, we're going to be seeing some more of Congolike in the near future. I can't promise an absolute prohibition on future "exposure", but I'll carefully consider every item and I have in fact suppressed some things in the past for various reasons. I don't post everything I run across, honestly! CSR may show full nudity, but we won't be doing hard-core BDSM or explicit sexual acts. I hope this explanation is satisfactory, or at least helps a little.

[07/19/2011 Update: this subject has come up in at least two other places, and since it has its own topic now I posted
some further thoughts there, just in case there's someone I hadn't wearied enough with this piece.]

HI WEB-ED!! The Supergirl spanking herself was ok but I wish someone like Lex Luthor or a robot Supergirl was doing the spanking.What with the Supertot spankings and how come Superman hand isn`t strong enough to hurt those Supertots bottoms??? I believe it would`ve been better if Lois was on the recieving end of those spanking for domestic reason something like Lucy use to get Love the second spanking of the wife in the Kirk Stiles marriage counsel mainly because she look like she embarrass about being over her husband knee with her dress pull up and panties showing about to get a spanking on request by the counselor The only man to spank a married woman should be her husband!! Can`t wait to see the three Rawhide spankings on CSR!!! THANKS WEB-ED!!!!!!

You're most welcome, Butch!

What with the Supertot spankings and how come Superman's hand isn`t strong enough to hurt those Supertots bottoms??? I believe it would`ve been better if Lois was on the recieving end of those spankings...

You won't get any argument from me or (probably) anyone else on this board about it being better for Lois Lane to have been on the receiving end of all those spankings. Unfortunately, Mort Weisinger wasn't going to let that happen (if you're interested in some of the details, you might refer to The Lois Lane Spanking Letters if you haven't already seen this page). It's really only been in the last year or so that I've gotten a clear picture of why Weisinger made the decisions he did regarding spankings in the "Superman Family" books he edited.

On the inclusion of the Super-Tot spankings - I haven't given the full explanation anywhere, probably because I write so many words on this forum (over 500 posts as of this date) and I don't want to go on for page after page all the time....but...perhaps now is the moment.

First, there is a considerable historical interest in all these Silver-Age DC spankings, especially since those of us who were around and reading comics back then are getting older, and it's possible that two generations of comics fans may never have seen them, or much else from the Silver Age either. I could perhaps have satisfied this need by simply logging these scenes in the Comics Spanking Data Base as I do with most of the M/M stuff, but the CSDB has only been around since last year and I posted the first Super-Tot years earlier. On the other hand, to get the full flavor of the DC Universe, you really have to see these scenes and not just read about them in the CSDB. That, I think, is an important point.

Second, my feelings about DC are pretty, well, odd. I loved DC as a boy during the latter part of the Silver Age, and found its undeniable weirdness fascinating rather than disturbing, which is how I looked at it years later when I was grown up. DC was seen by most as rather staid compared to the more daring Marvel during those years, but in fact Marvel was somewhat more conventional in its editorial viewpoint (then under Stan Lee) and also far healthier psychologically than DC. Years later, during Jim Shooter's editorship at Marvel, DC seemed like it was way ahead of them, but then it basically collapsed, leaving me disillusioned once again. I won't belabor this point any further here, but you can read further about what I've called DC's "disturbing SA tendency toward a kind of morbid sadism" if you wish.

I haven't followed DC in many years, but from what I can tell, they've sunk so low artistically that I'd describe what they're doing as "wallowing in evil" - not an exaggeration. At this point, I frankly relish the opportunity to highlight DC's weirdness at every opportunity.

Finally, while I normally don't show any child spankings on CSR, I've exempted these from that general rule because the attempts are unsuccessful and the adult gets what he or she deserves - a hurt hand! (By the way, since you asked: those Super-Tots are exactly as super as Superman, and invulnerable even to another invulnerable hand).

The Rawhide stuff: the episode with Barbara Eden getting spanked (yes!) is set to run here in Chicago next week. Needless to say, my DVR is at the ready. Once I've got it, I'll get to work in the editing room. Meanwhile, you'll be happy to know that the caning of the Dee Dee twins from The Return of the Joker will make its debut next week!

hi web-ed,

i liked the first kirk stiles marriage counselor spanking . the spankee is really appealing and her position is great with her bottom positioned just right............i agree that this is one of his best spanking toons. not only does her expression reflect her contentment with finally getting a spanking but so does her position and posture. she is sprawled comfortably over his lap, relaxed and apparently prepared to stay there and enjoy the spanking .i like the second caption best. the second stiles pic is not as well drawn and the spankee's lower legs seem slightly out of proportion. still, overall it's a good pic and i think her otk position is great. as for our potential spanker................he's dumb as a stump . this spankee seems somewhat more apprehensive but as you mentioned,more than willing to check this process out. the parts i like best in the morrice pic are the spankee's expression of fearful dismay and the idea that this should happen twice a week . as for the pic modified by doc cylon......................hmmmmmmm, nice spank spot . i thought the supergirl spanking supergirl was a good pic....nice bottom and a great smile on the spanker's face. you mentioned that this is the silver age supergirl spanking the modern era supergirl. i read tons of superman and supergirl comics in my school days but neither of these look very familiar to me. i'm not sure which age i fell into................other than old age of course another great update . thanks, phil