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Willjohn, this should at least START to answer your question 
i hope you all enjoy it. phil
hi Sunflower,sunflower309 wrote:merry after Christmas Phil!
I think corner time gave Natalie time to form a cogent thought. that is almost impossible during a spanking. not sure us spankees make much sense while OTK. and since Mark took charge her affirmative reply was expected! they are in for a long happy life together. but this is the first of many spankings I would think. is Mark going to forget about those damn penalty swats now that he's got the right answer? somehow I don't think so. Poor Natalie! she will be incoherent once more. and her poor bottom is about to sting even worse. a good spanker would never let a spankee slide on her penalties. but maybe on special occasions? another good one Phil. it's amazing even with the crazy holiday time you found time to do another toon for us! thank you.
sunflower
. as far as the penalty swats go..................they are the same as the rest of the spanking. once the spanking, or the penalty swats have been promised, they have to be delivered. relationships are based on promises kept and if he promised a spanking or penalty swats and then didn't deliver them Natalie would be disappointed and less secure in the relationship. once announced, a spanking must take place or it causes a loss of trust in the relationship. i'm glad that you enjoyed the toon . thanks for all your thoughtful comments. phil hi web-ed,web-ed wrote:Hey Phil,
This is great! What you have here is as good a presentation of a woman's emotional satisfaction from being forced to submit to a man as I have seen
. that is exactly what i was trying to depict so your comment brought grin to my face .your comment about the woman's confidence in her man is well said. it's part of what i was trying to convey to Sunflower in my reply to her but you have expanded on thatweb-ed wrote:At the same time, this couple's essential problem has been solved - and the woman's confidence in her man is the essential problem in any relationship. With this confidence comes emotional security for the woman, and provided the two don't have widely differing goals in life, any other problems can be easily worked out.
Natalie looks pretty good with her hands behind her head. Time for a hug and then perhaps it should be off to the bedroom as she and Mark consummate their engagement, if one may use that term.
. i too thought Natalie looked good here...............submissive too. of course, they can't go to bed yet because there's the matter of those penalty swats.................and yes you may use the term consummate . we'll see just how all this goes down. i'm glad you enjoyed the toon . thanks, philoverbarrel49 wrote:hi everyone,
sometimes when you say the least, it means the most although.............it appears that Natalie has learned you have to say SOMETHING
hi Boom,hugob00m wrote:There's a quote in McLintock! "I guess this is the only engagement that ever started off with a spanking!" IF the engagement of Devlin Waren and Becky McLintock ever was the only one that started off with a spanking, it sure isn't now!
. i know i think it's a great idea .yeah it ishugob00m wrote:It looks like there'll be a "happily ever after" ending for Mark and Natalie... AFTER she gets her "penalty swats"! Oooh! That poor girl's bottom is so-o-o red already!
. that's the bad thing about those penalty swats...................she will be getting them on a bottom that's already red and sore. they should make a good impression so to speak . that's an interesting idea but Mark needs to make sure he has more than one paddle before he does that. i have a hunch he may be needing his again in the near futurehugob00m wrote:And maybe, at their wedding, instead of tossing the garter to see who the next groom is going to be, Mark can hand a paddle to his best man... who's been having a bit of trouble getting his lady to commit!
. thanks, phil . of course, we may not be quite as close to getting there as Natalie is thinking . i hope you enjoy the new pic. phil
Anyway, the juncture of Natalie's face and the polo player is distracting, at least to me. hi Dan,daneldorado wrote:.
Excellent work, Phil... AGAIN!!!
.i'm happy that you found this panel satisfying and that you thought the hug was a good idea. i did toodaneldorado wrote:Your final panel on "Alternate Proposal" is supremely satisfying. Here we see two lovers, having survived the ultimate test of their mutual regard, and they are in a warm embrace. I'm an old softie, and to me that final hug is the ONE THING that vindicates a good spanking ordeal. Gotta love it!
. this isn't the last panel however. it will be into at least mid February before this toon is over.i do not use real models. i do , of course, look at other art and photos and real life along the way to see how it looks but when i am doing a pic i usually just pose them as it looks right to me and don't have reference materials there at the time i'm doing them. i appreciate your comment that the embrace is done realisticallydaneldorado wrote:Your artistry is so fine, you have depicted that embrace in a very realistic manner. If I didn't know this was poser art, I would think you used real-life models while you drew it. Hmmm... that's a good question. DO YOU, in fact, work from real life?
. it is difficult with poser because when 2 objects in poser collide, one of them just goes inside the other one and it's difficult to get the area of that collision to look right because the bending and shadows that occurs in real life doesn't happen with poser. this is exactly what i was talking about in the last paragraph. the logo in this pic is "stiff". because her head is pushing against her chest, that logo should be bent with a shadow along the bend but that doesn't happen here because her head is actually inside his chest instead of pushing against the outside. i had noticed that it was a bit off but couldn't put my finger on the problem. you are right though, it is the logo. without the logo there, i think it would have looked more natural.daneldorado wrote:There is just one thing about this final picture, and perhaps I am the only viewer to bring this up... but here, in the panel with the big hug between Mark and Natalie, you show Natalie's head against Mark's chest, and we are struck by the "impact" where her lovely face is in contact with the Ralph Lauren polo player logo on Mark's shirt. Previous panels that show Mark's chest have shown the logo as soft body dynamics, i.e., an unimportant detail. But here, you show the logo as a "rigid body"... and yes, I've plowed through Wikipedia to get some of these terms straight.
i'm glad you've been enjoying this one and thanks for your commentsdaneldorado wrote:Other than that, Phil, you have delivered a very fine picture. In fact, almost ALL of "An Alternate Proposal" is great.
. philhi Phil!overbarrel49 wrote:i'm happy that you found this panel satisfying and that you thought the hug was a good idea
hi Sunflower,sunflower309 wrote:
hi Phil!
the hug is a very good idea. I happen to get a hug after every one of my spankings so I can connect with your toon on that. it's very comforting in a way to receive that hug. I think every spankee should get a hug after a spanking. it's an important part.
sunflower
. i totally agree with your statements above........not only is that hug important, i think it and aftercare in general are very important . thanks, phil ) I love this story and I'm looking forward to seeing what will be next for this wonderful couple. (Well... I know there will be PENALTY SWATS, but, knowong how you write, I'm sure you have at least one surprise for the audience before it's all over) 
. hi Boom,hugob00m wrote:You've already gotten some comments from people who love the big hug in your most recent addition to your story. I agree with what they say. It's good to see the couple hug at the end of a romantic spanking... (or... at least at the end of PART ONE of the spanking!
. i am planning on events that i think will be surprising yet which we will get to laterhugob00m wrote:And of course, you show us the hug from an angle that we can cleary see Natalie's glowing backside!
. after all, we still have to get to that happy ending . thanks, phil hi web-ed,web-ed wrote:When it comes to matters of the heart, I tend to be not a cynical man but a realistic man, which means that most of time, I expect things to go wrong and people to be left terribly unhappy. But that doesn't mean I don't like a happy ending, where for once one of the two people involved didn't blow it, nor did cruel circumstance intervene and cause them to be parted, and this is a good one (yes, I know it's not over yet, which is fine with me as I want to see more anyway). And while, as Proust remarked, while happiness is beneficial to the body it is grief that develops the powers of the mind, grief also makes for a lousy spanking cartoon - which is my convoluted way of saying I liked this latest episode a whole lot
.these kinds of scenes are indeed difficult to do with Poser. that's why you will see many Poser artists who avoid physical contact between their Poser people at all costs. i personally thought this one turned out pretty well though although, i may pick a shirt with no logo on it next timeweb-ed wrote:No one could be unmoved seeing Natalie content in Mark's arms, and this kind of scene can't be easy to pull off with Poser. Of course, there's still the matter of those penalty swats, and then we'll see where we are.
. we will be getting to those penalty swats soon and after that, we will indeed see where we are . thanks, phil i hope you all like the new pic. philgood morning Phil!overbarrel49 wrote:it looks like Natalie is surprised and dismayed at this turn of events.....................as well as somewhat confused i hope you all like the new pic. phil