An Alternate Proposal

[overbarrel49]

good morning Phil!

you really nailed this one! I can tell you since I am not that far removed from my first adult spanking and my first penalty swats that i'm sure that's what my face looked like and those were definitely my emotions and thoughts. I forgot all about my penalty swats and I was sure my poor bottom couldn't take anymore. I only had 10 swats my first penalty but I didn't know what to expect. to add to that bent over with a bare bottom is very embarrassing. I don't know what was worse....the sting (and boy, did it sting) or the embarrassment, or the not knowing what exactly was coming. but I had earned those swats, I took them and now I fondly think about them. great one Phil!!

sunflower

hi Sunflower,

your comment that i nailed this one brought a grin to my face . i just figured that kind of expression might work for a lady who had just gotten reminded of her upcoming penalty swats . i thought your comment about remembering those swats fondly now was interesting too................i wonder if Natalie will remember hers that way . thanks, phil

[web-ed]

Ah yes, so the subject of the dreaded penalty swats has been broached at last! Little needs to be said about the spankee's apprehension at this moment, and I think Sunflower has already said it. You've captured her emotions well, Phil, so now all that remains is to sit back and enjoy the administration of the penalty .

[overbarrel49]

Ah yes, so the subject of the dreaded penalty swats has been broached at last! Little needs to be said about the spankee's apprehension at this moment, and I think Sunflower has already said it. You've captured her emotions well, Phil, so now all that remains is to sit back and enjoy the administration of the penalty .

hi web-ed,

i'm glad that you think i captured the emotion of this situation . that is what i was trying to depict with this one . those penalty swats will be coming right up . thanks, phil

[overbarrel49]

Natalie seems to be having some misgivings about this positiion.

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hi everyone,

Natalie is having a new experience..............in the form of penalty swats. somehow she seems to be a bit apprehensive about it...................... i hope you enjoy it. phil

[sunflower309]

hi Phil,

good one! I still have misgivings about this position! i have never been scared or wanted to run away (it would be hard to run with me pants down around my ankles anyway!) but i am always apprehensive when put in this position! and i do have to say that i wish the paddle used on me for this activity was that small!

and there you are, lurking on the tv, about to enjoy watching natalie receive her just rewards! and Mark has that spankers smirk on his face, as do you. and poor Natalie has a spankees face, i would imagine. and her face is as red as her bottom. it shows she really is embarrassed. in my opinion, this position is not as embarrassing as OTK, but it is not that far behind!

thanks Phil, i really identify with this picture. i can see myself in this position and often do!

sunflower

[overbarrel49]

hi Phil,

good one! I still have misgivings about this position! i have never been scared or wanted to run away (it would be hard to run with me pants down around my ankles anyway!) but i am always apprehensive when put in this position! and i do have to say that i wish the paddle used on me for this activity was that small!

hi Sunflower,

Natalie may want to run away but i notice that she isn't . like you, she is definitely having some misgivings about being put in this position though : . now that you mention it, i guess it would be hard to run away with your pants and panties around your ankles . as far as the paddle goes..............i guess Mark is just a really nice guy for using such a small one .

and there you are, lurking on the tv, about to enjoy watching natalie receive her just rewards! and Mark has that spankers smirk on his face, as do you. and poor Natalie has a spankees face, i would imagine. and her face is as red as her bottom. it shows she really is embarrassed. in my opinion, this position is not as embarrassing as OTK, but it is not that far behind!

i do like to make a cameo appearance from time to time and this seemed like a good opportunity .................of course, i also like watching a young lady getting a spanking:D . i think that "smirk" you referred to just comes with being a spanker . Natalie's red face does indeed indicate her embarrassment.............which is good for a spankee . Why is it that you think the OTK position is more embarrassing? i think Natalie is actually more exposed in this position............or at least she is thinking she might be.

thanks Phil, i really identify with this picture. i can see myself in this position and often do!

sunflower

as i have mentioned before, i just love it when a pic of mine makes a connection with a viewer so you comment brought a grin to my face . thanks, phil

[sunflower309]

Why is it that you think the OTK position is more embarrassing? i think Natalie is actually more exposed in this position............or at least she is thinking she might be.

hi Phil.

boy, you sure do ask some hard questions! I think being OTK is more embarrassing for several reasons. first, the spanker is right over the spankees bottom. and if bare bottom I think can see more of the spankee (I might be wrong but I really don't want to know) with penalty swats he is standing to my left side, not looking at me full on. and when OTK with pants on is embarrassing, but bare bottom is worse. it makes the spankee feel like a naughty girl, and at my age that is especially embarrassing. and there is no where to go. I think it's easy for the spanker to control his spankee better when OTK. and I have not yet found a graceful way to regain my feet either. I have a bad knee and can't just jump up. and then when OTK I think the spanker can feel the spankees responses. I sometimes try not to react but I think over his knee, he can feel a reaction to the spank he delivers, like little twitches, jerks etc. he can see the responses when bent over but I think they can be covered up more.

bent over might be more exposed, at least with legs apart. I think if a spankee can stand with her feet together that helps ease the embarrassment a little, at least in my case. now don't get me wrong, from the time I am standing in front of him and he rolls up his sleeves and orders me over his knee to the end when I can put my pants and panties back in place I am in a constant state of embarrassment. and sometimes just things he says increases my embarrassment. but it is indeed exquisitely embarrassing and the more embarrassed I am, the more intense my spanking is. so kinda a long winded answer to your short question, but you did ask! I guess if I ever get over my embarrassment will be the time to stop getting spanked!

Sunflower

[overbarrel49]

bent over might be more exposed, at least with legs apart. I think if a spankee can stand with her feet together that helps ease the embarrassment a little, at least in my case. now don't get me wrong, from the time I am standing in front of him and he rolls up his sleeves and orders me over his knee to the end when I can put my pants and panties back in place I am in a constant state of embarrassment. and sometimes just things he says increases my embarrassment. but it is indeed exquisitely embarrassing and the more embarrassed I am, the more intense my spanking is. so kinda a long winded answer to your short question, but you did ask! I guess if I ever get over my embarrassment will be the time to stop getting spanked!

hi sunflower,

thanks for the detailed explanation. it more than answers the question . i really liked your comment," the more embarrassed I am, the more intense my spanking is". intensity is what a spanking is all about and i always figured emotional reactions like embarrassment were at least as important as the spanking itself. your comment verifies that nicely . thanks, phil

[hugob00m]

For me, the best part was the prolonged OTK spanking Natalie already got... but it IS nice to see her bent over that chair, with her lovely round bottom, bright red from the spanking she's already gotten, pointing upward, ready for more...

And the look on her face is adorable! A bit of fearful anticipation, tempered with the knowledge that he loves her and she loves him...

I love the way you write your stories, and look forward to the rest of this one!

[overbarrel49]

For me, the best part was the prolonged OTK spanking Natalie already got... but it IS nice to see her bent over that chair, with her lovely round bottom, bright red from the spanking she's already gotten, pointing upward, ready for more...

hi Boom,

well, i'm glad you enjoyed the "view" in this one even if the best part is already over .

And the look on her face is adorable! A bit of fearful anticipation, tempered with the knowledge that he loves her and she loves him...

i really appreciate this comment. even though i have her bottom front and center...............or perhaps i should say "rear" and center , my concentration in this pic was her expression . your comments just nailed exactly what i was trying to depict and brought a grin to my face .

I love the way you write your stories, and look forward to the rest of this one!

i think you and i are both romantics at heart and i'm glad you're enjoying this story . thanks, phil

[web-ed]

Ah yes: "Keep your legs straight, head up, and bottom out..." Love it, love it, love it! And like B00m, I appreciate Natalie's expression here. She may never have seen a spanking paddle before, and certainly not one with holes. Well, she'll soon find out how they work. Nice cameo, by the way, Phil.

Oh, and don't forget to announce your new blog to everyone here!

[overbarrel49]

Ah yes: "Keep your legs straight, head up, and bottom out..." Love it, love it, love it! And like B00m, I appreciate Natalie's expression here. She may never have seen a spanking paddle before, and certainly not one with holes. Well, she'll soon find out how they work. Nice cameo, by the way, Phil.

hi web-ed,

having been a member here for a while now, i am well aware of your fondness for paddling so i was anxious to hear your comments about this pic. your comments brought a grin to my face . i will admit too that, before i started posing this pic, i consulted your article, "How to Paddle, Strap and Cane" so thanks and a tip of the hat for supplying that bit of expertise . i'm also glad to hear that you liked Natalie's expression since i thought it was entirely appropriate for this situation . as i said earlier, i like to do a cameo once in a while and this seemed like a good time for it. i have one spankee friend who was laughing and commented that it looked like a young Groucho Marx. i told her, if i had thought about that i would have gotten a cigar before having the pics taken .

Oh, and don't forget to announce your new blog to everyone here!

thanks. for anyone who doesn't know, yahoo groups and email have been a big screwed up mess for some time now. i haven't even been able to get to my toon groups for almost 2 weeks now and i am over it. i opened a blog a few days ago to replace the toon groups. i will be posting my new pics there from now on. i went back and posted "Alternate Proposal" from the beginning so it will be the first toon there. so far everyone likes the blog better because it is easier to use. i will continue to post my pics here, of course, but for any of you who would like to check out the blog, here is the link; http://overbarrelspankingtoons.blogspot.com/ . thanks, web-ed. i'm glad you liked the toon . phil

[overbarrel49]

Natalie's a bit jumpy

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hi everyone,

Natalie seems to be dreading these penalty swats.....................so why is she anxious for Mark to get on with them?? Mark, on the other hand, seems to be very relaxed and in no hurry at all . i hope you all enjoy the new pic. thanks, phil

[web-ed]

I'm sure that Sunflower will confirm, Phil, that you're right on with Natalie being anxious for the swats to begin even though she dreads them, because waiting for them is even worse! And I have noticed that the spankee often doubts her capacity to take the designated number of swats, as Natalie does here, even though I'm always careful not to make it more than she can handle - this may be an example of female insecurity. Provided you go easy with the wood, though, most women handle their swats pretty well. I like to give a preliminary "touch" with the paddle as Mark does here - I think most spankees find this torturous and yet strangely satisfying as well.

One interesting thing about the bending-over positions is that they photograph well from pretty much any angle. This gives the artist an opportunity to vary the camera angle, and this time we see Natalie from about a three-quarter view (four such views are possible). We can actually see a good bit this way, both where the action is (or will be) and Natalie's expression. Notice that it would work as well right after the swat, when Natalie will probably close her eyes and open her mouth, as it does here when she's worrying about what's to come. I expect you'll continue to vary the point of view as the penalty phase progresses.

[overbarrel49]

I'm sure that Sunflower will confirm, Phil, that you're right on with Natalie being anxious for the swats to begin even though she dreads them, because waiting for them is even worse!

hi web-ed,

i think you have a good point here not to mention that spankees are often a mass of conflicting emotions . for me, watching them dealing with all this contradictory information is part of the fun of giving a spanking:lol:

And I have noticed that the spankee often doubts her capacity to take the designated number of swats, as Natalie does here, even though I'm always careful not to make it more than she can handle - this may be an example of female insecurity. Provided you go easy with the wood, though, most women handle their swats pretty well. I like to give a preliminary "touch" with the paddle as Mark does here - I think most spankees find this torturous and yet strangely satisfying as well.

i never thought about insecurity being the cause of this doubt. i guess i just figured it was because her bottom was already sore . i do like those touches with paddle before landing a swat. a spanking is all about intensity both physical and emotional, and that is one of those devices to increase that intensity................which could account for the satisfaction the spankee gets from it .

One interesting thing about the bending-over positions is that they photograph well from pretty much any angle. This gives the artist an opportunity to vary the camera angle, and this time we see Natalie from about a three-quarter view (four such views are possible). We can actually see a good bit this way, both where the action is (or will be) and Natalie's expression. Notice that it would work as well right after the swat, when Natalie will probably close her eyes and open her mouth, as it does here when she's worrying about what's to come. I expect you'll continue to vary the point of view as the penalty phase progresses.

i have the next 4 pics done, which is all of the ones dealing with penalty swats so i have been giving a lot of thought to those camera angles you mentioned. i am used to doing mostly OTK spankings so i had to give some thought to how to stage these. with OTK, the spankee is pretty free to wiggle and move around so it's often possible to show her bottom and he face at the same time. with the bending over position, her movement is much more restricted for the spankee's own protection. this presented me with some new parameters to work with..........or around. Sunflower did give me some pointers on all this and i'll be really interested in seeing how close my pics are to what actually happens when you are giving out penalty swats. thanks for your analysis of all this. it's all very interesting . phil

[hugob00m]

Even though I prefer the OTK position (which you provided some excellent pictures of... THANK YOU!) The position Natalie is in now shows off her cute round backside nicely, even when your "camera angle" is almots in front of her. And the look on her pretty face is exquisite! I like the detail of her hands resting on the chair cushion... and I suppose she'll be digging her fingernails into that poor cushion before her penalty swats are finished! I'm looking forward to seeing how you end this story. Considering your romantic streak and your preference for happy endings, I think that Mark and Natalie will have a long, loving relationship ahead of them... and Natalie probably knows in her heart that her future with Mark will be filled with love, and punctuated with plenty of spankings.

[overbarrel49]

Even though I prefer the OTK position (which you provided some excellent pictures of... THANK YOU!) The position Natalie is in now shows off her cute round backside nicely, even when your "camera angle" is almots in front of her. And the look on her pretty face is exquisite! I like the detail of her hands resting on the chair cushion... and I suppose she'll be digging her fingernails into that poor cushion before her penalty swats are finished! I'm looking forward to seeing how you end this story. Considering your romantic streak and your preference for happy endings, I think that Mark and Natalie will have a long, loving relationship ahead of them... and Natalie probably knows in her heart that her future with Mark will be filled with love, and punctuated with plenty of spankings.

hi Boom,

i'm glad you liked the shot of her bottom . i like to show a good, direct view of a shapely female bottom but when that's not possible, i've noticed that at least the curvy outline often CAN be shown . that's what i was attempting to do in this one since my focus was on her expression..............which i was gratified that you noticed and enjoyed . i am indeed a fan of romantic, happy endings as you noted and i do think your speculation concerning their continuing relationship is right on the money . thanks for your comments. i'm glad you enjoyed this one . phil

[sunflower309]

I'm sure that Sunflower will confirm, Phil, that you're right on with Natalie being anxious for the swats to begin even though she dreads them, because waiting for them is even worse!

hi Phil,

and yes, the web-ed is exactly right with his comment. the first time I received penalty swats, those damn taps drove me to distraction. I didn't know what to expect after the taps, I just wanted that first swat. I dreaded it but the taps were maddening. and like Mark my spanker was in no hurry. after the first swat I wondered why I was in such a hurry. it really stung! and I had to concentrate on not moving out of position. I wanted to stop after 1, but no such luck!

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the first ever swat with a paddle is a shock. and I just knew I didn't want a second. the second wasn't such a big shock but I still didn't think I could take the 10 I was promised. it was because my poor bottom was stinging like crazy. I didn't think I could take more. my spanker knew I could take more and I did. I did indeed find the "touch" torturous but yes, satisfying. they still are toturous to me to this day but a necessary evil

i never thought about insecurity being the cause of this doubt. i guess i just figured it was because her bottom was already sore . i do like those touches with paddle before landing a swat. a spanking is all about intensity both physical and emotional, and that is one of those devices to increase that intensity................which could account for the satisfaction the spankee gets from it

I never thought of insecurity but that could be a part of it. I always thought it was because my bottom was indeed already sore. your statements are certainly true Phil. I don't look forward to those damn taps or swats, but I remember them fondly after they are over.

Sunflower did give me some pointers on all this and i'll be really interested in seeing how close my pics are to what actually happens when you are giving out penalty swats.

I am glad to be able to give you the spankees perspective. of course still being fairly new to all this I could not be real accurate. I am not real sure what my spanker is doing for sure. I have peeked back a few times recently because I am getting more comfortable (not my bottom though) with being paddled and starting to pay more attention. I am sure that he enjoys it as much as I think Mark is going to.

sunflower

[sunflower309]

oh Phil,

I forgot. making Natalie admit that it is her fault she is receiving swats is a powerful tool also. I hate admitting it's my fault i'm getting spanked or getting swats but it adds something for me. a large part of a satisfying part of my spanking are what is said to me. some things have a real impact. sometimes I don't hear anything because I am concentrating on the sting in my bottom. I would never tell him that of course! .

sunflower

[overbarrel49]

hi Phil,

and yes, the web-ed is exactly right with his comment. the first time I received penalty swats, those damn taps drove me to distraction. I didn't know what to expect after the taps, I just wanted that first swat. I dreaded it but the taps were maddening. and like Mark my spanker was in no hurry. after the first swat I wondered why I was in such a hurry. it really stung! and I had to concentrate on not moving out of position. I wanted to stop after 1, but no such luck!

hi Sunflower,

both you and web-ed commented that waiting for the penalty swats causes anxiety which may be worse than actually getting the swats. it's just this kind of activity that increases the emotional intensity of the spanking and in my opinion, the greater the intensity of the spanking, the greater the satisfaction that is produced by the spanking .

I never thought of insecurity but that could be a part of it. I always thought it was because my bottom was indeed already sore. your statements are certainly true Phil. I don't look forward to those damn taps or swats, but I remember them fondly after they are over.

here is that love/hate thing that spankee's so often experience. you hate the anxiety of waiting but love it when reflecting afterward....................the same goes for the actual swats. it's all so interesting............and confusing..............and satisfying .

I am glad to be able to give you the spankees perspective. of course still being fairly new to all this I could not be real accurate. I am not real sure what my spanker is doing for sure. I have peeked back a few times recently because I am getting more comfortable (not my bottom though) with being paddled and starting to pay more attention. I am sure that he enjoys it as much as I think Mark is going to.

sunflower

i really appreciate it that you share your spankee's perspective with us. that is all too often, hard to come by . it seems to me that you are indeed getting more comfortable with the spanking process and i hope that means you are enjoying the process more. i'll be looking forward to more of your comments as time goes on.

I forgot. making Natalie admit that it is her fault she is receiving swats is a powerful tool also. I hate admitting it's my fault i'm getting spanked or getting swats but it adds something for me. a large part of a satisfying part of my spanking are what is said to me. some things have a real impact. sometimes I don't hear anything because I am concentrating on the sting in my bottom. I would never tell him that of course! .

sunflower

more interesting comments. i have always felt that the emotional part of a spanking is the most powerful and intense and here you have provided confirmation that is true. those words you mention can really increase the intensity of a spanking starting right at the beginning with the announcement and going right on through. yep, it sounds to me like you are enjoying all this more and more as you gain experience . thanks for sharing. phil